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Living Authentically: Colby Wilk’s Guide to Self-Discovery

Published on: 12th May, 2025

Discovering True Wellbeing with Colby Wilk: Intuition, Empathy, and Self-Realization

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In this insightful episode, we sit down with Colby Wilke, an intuitive guide and healer, to explore the concept of 'wayfinding.' Colby shares his unique approach to helping individuals discover their true selves and the life that calls to them, emphasizing the importance of intuition and empathy. He delves into the distinctions between empathy and being highly sensitive, discussing the challenges and gifts of each. Colby also addresses the misconceptions around wellbeing and the importance of self-realization over material success. Tune in to learn about the journey of becoming oneself and the role of spirituality versus religion, along with practical tips on how to navigate life’s challenges and uncertainties.


00:00 Introduction

00:30 Understanding the Role of a Wayfinder

03:15 Exploring Empathy and Being an Empath

11:17 Defining Highly Sensitive People

15:06 Spirituality vs. Religion

20:17 Colby's Industry and Daily Work

29:05 Self-Realization and Self-Actualization

33:25 Accessing and Enhancing Empathy

35:13 Navigating Psychic Abilities and Ego

38:53 Understanding and Controlling Gifts

43:04 The Journey to Self-Discovery

56:09 The Process of Letting Go

58:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Transcript
Russell Newton:

alright, joining us today is Kolby Wilke.

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Welcome back listeners, and

thank you for joining us today.

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Rather than me try to introduce Colby and

get the facts wrong, I'm gonna ask him

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to take a few minutes here at the top of

the episode just to introduce himself,

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maybe explain a few key terms that we

might see on his social media sites such

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as Wayfinder is an interesting term to me.

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And we'll see where the

conversation leads from there.

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So Colby, if you would just tell

us about yourself and your work.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Sure.

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Uh, thanks for having me on.

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I, uh, work as a wayfinder, which

to me means I help people find their

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way to who they really are and to

the life that's been calling them.

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I believe that everyone has a life that's

calling them, that we tend to resist

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because it would involve change, shaking

things up outside of our comfort zone.

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Uh, I have an intuitive gift where I'm

able to sense, uh, what someone's soul

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is trying to lead them towards and

what is in their way, what's in their

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blind spot, causing them suffering.

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And with this gift, I'm able

to help somebody spot it.

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What they've been denying,

abandoning, stepping over so that

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way it finally can be resolved.

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'cause when we face off with

compassion, what's been in

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our way, it, it dissolves it.

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Um, people come to me with all

sorts of problems, procrastination,

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self-worth, anxiety, depression,

phobias, even physical problems.

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And many of them have read a

whole bunch of self-help books.

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Many of them have sat at the

feet of, gurus had had like a

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shaman or a healer work on them.

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Yet true wellbeing still eludes them,

even though they've made a lot of effort.

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The truth is you can't get

to wellbeing with effort.

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You just can't.

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That's not how it works.

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You can't get to wellbeing by trying

to bend yourself into some version

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of better true wellbeing comes from.

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Allowing yourself to be who you are.

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And then somebody might

say, Colby, well who's that?

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And I'll say, let's go Look, we're so in a

rush to get somewhere called satisfaction,

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but as you know, many listeners know

it's nowhere out there, it's in here.

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Um, and many of my people, my

clients, my students have been

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looking quite earnestly, right?

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Um, and they go to folks who will

show them what worked for them,

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like what's been their path, and

then they'll share their path.

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The benefit of going to an

intuitive, a psychic is to help, I

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help people sense their own path.

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Everyone has a particular path that

their soul is inviting them, and I'm

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able, able to sense it and then I'm

able to help somebody else sense it.

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And once you know what your

soul is inviting you to do.

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Life becomes a lot easier.

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Russell Newton: i, I think in my

experience when I speak with people,

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if you say you're an empath or

along those lines, they get all

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not defensive, but skeptical maybe.

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Can you define the term

empath as you see it?

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Sure.

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So empath or empathy is being

able to tune to somebody else.

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Usually empathy is both

a gift and a curse.

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Empathy for many people.

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Some people come in with it, other people.

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I came in with it and it got further

developed because I was raised in

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a rather dysfunctional home, so I

had to, I would be like, oh, is it

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okay to go down into the kitchen?

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And I would sense who's in the

kitchen and sense what their

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mood was by stretching my field.

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We have a jelly bean of energy around

us, above, below to the sides, and

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you can stretch it to include another

and sense their feelings, their

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state, what they're thinking about.

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It's a skillset.

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In large part, empathy means I'm

able to tune into you the problem

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with empathy or the challenges.

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I'm so good as an empath tuning into you,

but I may not be great at tuning into me.

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Or tuning into higher consciousness.

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Some people like to be around

empaths because, oh, this

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person understands me easy.

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Some people don't like being around

empaths because everyone wants to be seen,

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but not everyone wants to be seen through.

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Seen through means.

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I see your stuff and what you're

stepping over and your ego.

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A lot of people don't want that.

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Now.

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That's a helpful skill for

those people who want that

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and wanna work on themselves.

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But other people are like, get outta here.

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You know me better than I know me.

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That frightens me.

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An empath needs to learn how

to control their empathy.

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'cause an empath usually cares more

about the other than themselves.

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And therefore resents other

people not doing the same empaths

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generally want to live in Mr.

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Rogers neighborhood where

everyone is kind, everyone is

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compassionate, everyone like shares

like, oh yeah, that was my ego.

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I'm so sorry, but we don't live in Mr.

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Rogers neighborhood.

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And if you're an empath, you're

like, I want to, but I don't.

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And I'm mad about it because I'm kinder

and more compassionate than other

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people, and people aren't kind and

compassionate to me, it feels unfair.

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So an empath needs to learn to

control their empathy and to tune into

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themselves and higher consciousness.

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That's the path of an empath.

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Russell Newton: a skillset is always

placed for those that excel at something

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on top of a certain level of talent.

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You said you came in as an empath,

so is that, that's something, uh,

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correct me if I'm wrong, something

you feel you were born with.

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through work and sensing and

uh, consciousness, were able

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to extend that skillset.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Everyone could

do math, but not everyone's an Einstein,

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right?

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Empathy is a skill.

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Some have a lot of it and

develop it, and some not so much.

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So I came in rather open and

not very defined as a self.

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I, I, so I had very little

self-worth, self-esteem.

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I was kind of just open, right?

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And so, yes, I came in with it,

and I've developed it because I

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wanted to be safe in my family.

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One, two, my career

lends itself to empathy.

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People want to feel like

they're understood by me.

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Um, and people love empaths because

it's, they have, they don't have

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to work as hard to be understood.

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So somebody who has a difficult

time expressing themselves,

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finding the words, loves an

empath, because I'll do it for you.

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No, no problem.

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And then eventually it kind of

backfires in relationship because,

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wait a minute, get outta my head.

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Get outta my space.

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Empaths tend to bleed.

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Into people, which initially,

like in high school and middle

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school and college and in your

twenties, makes you rather popular.

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But by the time you leave your

thirties, you, you occur to somebody

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as too much or boundaryless.

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And so then becomes the process of, for

most empaths, okay, this is not working.

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How do I find myself?

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I can be empathic.

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That doesn't mean I'm present.

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And presence is the game, is

the winning in, in the old lotto

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commercials, something along the

lines of in order, uh, how does it go?

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You gotta be present to win.

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That was the.

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Russell Newton: To win.

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Yes.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Present to win.

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If you're not present to yourself,

you can't win in this game of life.

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See?

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Right.

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So I see a lot of couples and the

male, the person will say, my, my,

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my wife thinks I don't understand

her feelings and wants me to get it

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without her having to say something.

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And she'll be like,

yeah, like you do Colby.

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And I'm like, one, I'm a homosexual.

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One.

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Two, I'm not your husband.

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Two and three.

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That's not his job.

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Your job wife in this case is

to share what you're feeling

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eloquently enough for him to get it.

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Your associating wife, that he

doesn't care about you because

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he doesn't understand you.

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No.

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He doesn't understand you because

you are not using language affect

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to get him to understand you.

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And he needs to be open to like, I

don't get it and I want to get it.

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Help me to get it.

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Explain it in a different way,

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Russell Newton: Hmm.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: please.

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. Empathy usually comes

from the female essence.

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Doesn't mean you have to be, you

know, have the gonads of a female,

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but it's usually associated with

the feminine part of the being.

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It's receptive, right?

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So I am receptive to things that has its

pluses and it has its minuses, right?

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People who are not empathic tend to.

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Like, be self-focused, are able

to advocate for themselves.

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If you don't like me, that's okay.

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That's very non empathic, right?

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Very male.

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Very male.

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Empathic em, empathy.

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Very female.

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Not to say you need to

be in a female body.

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I'm not.

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Russell Newton: Mm-hmm.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: So I, I just

wanted to throw that in a little.

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Russell Newton: No, that's, that's great.

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Thank you.

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So kind of an aside, just definition

wise, a term I've run across, I've done,

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I have a particular author that deals

with self-development from more of the

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empathic or the empath side, I think.

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And he uses the term several times

in his books about highly sensitive.

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Is that something that.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: There's highly

sensitive people and there's empaths,

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two different groups, some overlap.

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Russell Newton: Some overlap.

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Okay, great.

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Can you expand on that a little

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

So highly sensitive.

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People are sensitive to, there's an

acronym that I don't remember off

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the top of my head, but sensitive

to noise, sensitive to environment,

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some sensitive to energies,

sensitive to their own emotions.

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Sensitive to deregulation, right?

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Sensitive.

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And there's many different

ways of being sensitive, right?

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Empaths are

sensitive to feelings and energy.

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You could be a highly

sensitive person, person.

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I'm sensitive to sound.

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I'm sensitive to environments

and have no empathy.

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None.

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Russell Newton: Very good.

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Very good.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: are highly

sensitive people who have empathy.

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There is a lot of overlap, but not

necessarily, I'm highly sensitive.

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Oh, I sensitive and I'm empathic.

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So double whack if you would.

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: At the end of

the day, and I use these terms, I'm not

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a big term person because I'm not big

on putting yourself in a bucket because

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there are all sorts of energies that

come with labeling yourself, right?

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All sorts of terms.

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So for instance, if I call upon

creator, there are associations

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with that term, other associations

with God or Lord or Yahweh or Allah.

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So you wanna make sure the term

you're calling yourself or calling on.

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Is the associations you want.

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So for instance, if

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Russell Newton: Tell me a little bit more

about the associations you want and how

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: as a gay

man, if I call on the Christian God

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and the Christian God has

overlays of homophobia, that's

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not gonna work so well for me.

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Even if I don't

know it, it's not gonna work so well.

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'cause I'm calling upon a form a, a form

of energy that has distaste for who I am.

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So you wanna be very careful

about labeling yourself.

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Like I wouldn't run around calling myself

a highly sensitive person or an empath.

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I say I have highly developed empathy,

which then I'm more in control.

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I.

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I say I'm highly sensitive to

energy, but I'm not gonna label

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myself highly sensitive people.

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'cause once you label yourself,

are you labeling yourself for

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why so people understand you?

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'cause you're identifying

because you're a victim.

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Why you're identifying that way.

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Just share what your experience is and

that way you let go of all of that stuff.

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Russell Newton: The, the very essence of

self-awareness that I am not this thing.

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I feel this thing or I can do this thing,

but that not, that doesn't identify me.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Right, right.

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Like I say to I, I would say

like I'm, I say I'm gay, but the

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truth is I fall in love with men.

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That's more descriptive.

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Now, if I have associations that

gay is bad from childhood, gay is

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wrong, then I'm loading that into

my consciousness unconsciously.

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So why don't I just

say what's true for me?

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I fall in love with men.

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Great.

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Now I have to deal with all

that rest of that stuff.

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Russell Newton: Right.

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so another branch then, you were on the

border of spirituality versus religion.

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Possibly things that maybe in a

lot of people's minds might be

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very similar, but spirituality

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you mentioned shamanism.

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And all the deities that we might

identify with or speak to or communicate

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with a religion such as Catholicism or

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And you started to go into some of that.

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Maybe I cut you short.

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Did you complete your thought with the

deity or the power, the consciousness

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that you should be communicating with?

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Or did?

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Did I cut you off?

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: So, let's see.

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There is no right or wrong way.

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I.

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The benefit of religion in my

opinion is it's a tried path.

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Many people have walked it and there's

a lot of energy gathered around it.

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And so it, you can get somewhere

assuming there's a place to get faster.

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If you identify as a Christian, a

Jew, a Buddhist, whatever it is,

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I don't, and I was raised Jewish.

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I'm Jewish because of my culture,

but I don't exactly identify with.

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The religion never really took from me.

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So I am somebody who kind of

samples and kind of makes up my mind

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and feel into what works for me.

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And I think the benefit of that is

I'm finding my own path as opposed

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to being told what my path is.

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And it lends itself to me helping

people find their own path.

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Yet, if a religion calls to you

go, it's, there's huge benefit

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of participating in a religion.

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Huge benefit.

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And there's, you know, a

little bit of detriment.

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'cause you want to think for

yourself, you wanna make decisions.

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Um, there's a lot of hatred within

religion, some religion, right, that

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you want to be on the lookout for.

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We want to find our way, but we also

don't want to give away our power.

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And we want people to contribute to us.

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So there's this paradox

as spirituality is right.

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I want to be me and I want to allow God.

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Well, those seem like they're

in conflict, but they're not.

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It's a paradox.

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People want simplicity.

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And it's not simple.

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It's not simple at all.

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So many people in my industry.

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And I apologize on behalf of my industry

for engaging in spiritual materialism.

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Meaning that, hey, if you

meditate, think positive, expect

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the best, do appreciation,

good things will come to you.

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And if good things don't come to you,

the Maserati, the house, whatever

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the case may be, the job, the wife,

the boyfriend, whatever, then that's

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because you are doing something

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Russell Newton: Hmm.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: that's not

spirituality, that's materialism.

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Maing

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Russell Newton: Excellent,

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: right?

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Russell Newton: excellent.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Right.

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Spirituality in my not so humble opinion,

not so humble, is relinquishing the self.

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Now I am 58.

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Right?

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I'm 58.

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That's what, how old I am.

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Okay.

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Where you act surprised, please.

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No, I'm kidding.

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So I'm 58 and I'm not the same

man that I was five years ago,

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10 years ago, 15 years ago.

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I have shed cells, I have let go, right?

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I was a boy who couldn't

raise his hand in class.

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Now I talk very freely.

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I was a boy who couldn't, you

know, honor his sexuality.

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Now I am out and about, right?

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So you become different.

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Our society tends to reward

people who maintain a self

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and build a kingdom around it.

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Russell Newton: Hmm.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

That's not spirituality.

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Spirituality is the relinquishment

of self, which involves

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the relinquishment of ego.

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And the relinquishment of doubt

and giving in to the great mystery.

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We don't know how this

thing works called life.

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We don't know.

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And there are people in my industry

trying to tell you, yes, I do know these

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are the laws, this is how it works.

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And yes, there is a point to it.

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Absolutely.

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There's some sure evidence and yeah, sure.

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Absolutely.

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But it's not, it's not that.

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It's not that.

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So yeah, there you go.

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He didn't ask, but he's Roland.

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Russell Newton: that, that's great.

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Um, so let's, let's take a step

back from the in depth part there.

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You, you mentioned in the, in

the last several sentences,

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your industry quite a bit.

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What, uh, on a day-to-day.

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Process.

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What is your industry?

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This, these are things I probably could

have learned honestly by going in depth

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through some of your material, but I

wanted the conversation to be fresh.

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So rather than me try to

interpret what I'm seeing.

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You know, some of these questions

might have been obvious in your social

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media presence, but, uh, is you, you

mentioned industry, you mentioned

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your clients and your students.

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So tell us on a day-to-day basis,

what, what is, do you run a practice?

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Are you a, an educator

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Sure.

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Russell Newton: or you

do all those things?

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: I would

say my industry is along the lines

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of metaphysics, self-development,

personal development.

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Uh, I would be classified as

an intuitive guide or healer.

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I see clients, individuals, I see couples.

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I teach classes on how to find

your path, how to increase your

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intuition, how to let go of trauma.

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Um, I have a fair bit of social

media presence that I'm working on.

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And, uh, yeah, so my day is filled

with sessions, classes, and, uh,

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writing emails for the most part.

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Russell Newton: you're an entrepreneur

or, uh, maybe not entrepreneur, but

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basically you're, self-employed.

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Yeah, same.

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Same here as, uh, so many of

us, uh, seem to be now on this.

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Uh, and I understand the whole

kind of, the whole social

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media trying to build all that.

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It's a constant

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Russell Newton: and a

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: God.

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Russell Newton: it?

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: It's really,

it's really tough because you don't,

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Russell Newton: It is.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: you want to be

true to who you are and so many people are

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screaming for attention and overpromising

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Russell Newton: Yes.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

on people's desperation.

391

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And so, you know, it's just really, it's

difficult to raise beyond the noise.

392

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It is

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Russell Newton: It, it

is very, yes, it is.

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Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: really.

395

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Russell Newton: Um, notice when I look

at your YouTube page, which I, I have

396

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up here, and the, it's striking that

nothing um, thumbnails is all caps with

397

:

three exclamation points at the end.

398

:

Right?

399

:

That's, I I see it, but I put a video

out I try to make a headline that is

400

:

informative and accurate, but if you

don't claim I can fix you in three

401

:

minutes, in two steps or less, you

know, there are other headlines and

402

:

people seem to fall for those headlines.

403

:

Uh, at, at least, you know, if you,

if you're just going by the numbers of

404

:

views of a video they have hundreds of

thousands of views on this thing that,

405

:

you know, it can't be true really for

most people, it, it is discouraging.

406

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: I am sure.

407

:

Russell Newton: But it's gotten,

408

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: I'm sure

everyone's offering something.

409

:

There's, you want a more mature audience.

410

:

Like years ago I did more instant healing

where I used my gift to help people

411

:

heal of whatever disease or trauma I.

412

:

And what I found was that

people would come back the

413

:

next week with something else.

414

:

Russell Newton: mm.

415

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Something

else, and something else.

416

:

But it really didn't elevate them.

417

:

It didn't elevate them to

be beyond circumstance.

418

:

It kept them trying to manufacture a life

of wellbeing without knowing wellbeing.

419

:

Right.

420

:

And it just is more materialism.

421

:

The answer is outside of yourself.

422

:

The answer is, and so much

social media, as you know, it

423

:

is like, look at my abs, right?

424

:

Or look how pretty my house is.

425

:

Look, I'm boarding this plane.

426

:

Look at my fancy car, and God bless.

427

:

You know, I, I like that stuff.

428

:

I, I'm not making it wrong.

429

:

You know, it is what it is you gotta be.

430

:

It doesn't feel authentic

to me to over promise.

431

:

And I guess on some level I'm

paying a price because I'm

432

:

not capturing those people.

433

:

But those people I really don't

wanna work with, to be honest,

434

:

Russell Newton: That's exactly right.

435

:

That's, that's the most valid

ending to that sentence is that.

436

:

What good are the 32nd clicks?

437

:

You know, I, we're not here on

social media to the, the goal is

438

:

not to build the huge following.

439

:

The goal is to help those,

that are willing to put the

440

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work in and, and that are

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:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: who you are.

442

:

A match,

443

:

Russell Newton: in being improve

whatever the right phrasing might be.

444

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: right?

445

:

Like what I ask clients a lot when

I first start working with them is,

446

:

what do you, well, what do you want?

447

:

Usually I want a boyfriend, I

want money, I want my pancreas

448

:

back, whatever the case may be.

449

:

Okay, great.

450

:

That's a great place to start.

451

:

Now what's your life about Now?

452

:

That's a very interesting question to me.

453

:

What is your life about?

454

:

Like if you were to be buried and

you had a little tombstone or a big

455

:

tombstone, what do you want it saying?

456

:

Not like I'm a father, son, brother,

but here lies Hubert or Christine.

457

:

She lived what?

458

:

She lived life fully.

459

:

She knew love, she knew belonging.

460

:

She was evolved.

461

:

She always had a con,

what is your life about?

462

:

And that will give us the framework

to make decisions moving forward.

463

:

But if you don't know what

your life is about, you're

464

:

kind of wandering in the dark.

465

:

You're just, you're just trying, you're

making it up as you go along and you're

466

:

make, and you, you're just like, I'm lost.

467

:

What's your life about?

468

:

And most people say, I don't know.

469

:

And.

470

:

I don't know, and that's

when I tune into their soul.

471

:

I'm like, have you ever thought Yes,

I think about that all the time.

472

:

Okay, there.

473

:

There it is.

474

:

There it is.

475

:

It's right there.

476

:

Yeah.

477

:

But yeah, there's a lot of reasons.

478

:

There's always a lot of reasons of,

of course, there's a lot of reasons.

479

:

I'm not saying you don't have evidence.

480

:

I'm not saying you don't have

reason to have pause, but is

481

:

that really what you want?

482

:

Yes.

483

:

That's my heartfelt desire.

484

:

I don't know how to get there.

485

:

Don't worry.

486

:

Let's just admit that you want that,

that that's your soul yearning.

487

:

Soul meaning from your soul,

and soul, meaning singular.

488

:

Russell Newton: Right, right.

489

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: You can

only monotheism has it right?

490

:

In some respects, some respects

you can only honor one God.

491

:

Not God, Lord, creator one God.

492

:

Meaning your life could

only be about one thing.

493

:

It is the umbrella.

494

:

Now your life might be about love.

495

:

Great, let's do that.

496

:

It might be life, be about beauty.

497

:

Great.

498

:

Your might.

499

:

Life might be about forgiveness.

500

:

Great, but you can't be

about forgiveness and beauty.

501

:

'cause those things sometimes compete.

502

:

One will rise to the top.

503

:

And that's where we

take our direction from.

504

:

One can consider that an angel.

505

:

And we're taking our direction from

that angel, the angel of whatever it is.

506

:

My life per se, is about evolution.

507

:

I am really curious, not what

God is, but what this is.

508

:

What is this, what is this?

509

:

And what is the apex of my evolution?

510

:

That's my interest.

511

:

And so all decisions followed from there.

512

:

My

513

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Russell Newton: Okay.

514

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: not about love.

515

:

I like, love my life's.

516

:

I like belonging.

517

:

I love that too.

518

:

I, I, I love, uh, love, uh, sex.

519

:

I love altered states of consciousness.

520

:

I love all that part of me.

521

:

He's up and about.

522

:

Uh, good.

523

:

Down you go.

524

:

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

525

:

Whoa.

526

:

Okay.

527

:

Sorry about that.

528

:

What's your life about?

529

:

So, I guess I'm asking, you're

inviting your listeners to

530

:

consider what's your life about?

531

:

What do you want written

on your tombstone?

532

:

What do you want said to said

about you at your eulogy?

533

:

And then we need to separate

what your spirit is saying

534

:

and what your ego is saying.

535

:

Well, I want people to tell that

I was a great businessman and that

536

:

I, you know, supported it well.

537

:

Is that your, your spirit

or is that your ego?

538

:

And we need to distinguish those

things and pull them apart.

539

:

Russell Newton: Wow.

540

:

So that's your first step

541

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: That's

542

:

Russell Newton: or a, even

your first step, but a person's

543

:

first step to self-realization.

544

:

Is that the right phrase?

545

:

Or, or, uh, what is

546

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

ization is exactly it.

547

:

Actually, you did a great job there.

548

:

Self-actualization.

549

:

Yeah, you did a great job.

550

:

Most people don't get that.

551

:

Mazel tough to you.

552

:

Self-actualization is, I

want to be my best self.

553

:

I want the body, the wealth, the whatever.

554

:

That's self-actualization.

555

:

Best life, best version of self.

556

:

Self-actualization.

557

:

Self-realization is there's no one here.

558

:

There's no one here I

am, I am the everything.

559

:

I realize the true self,

that there is no self.

560

:

That's self-realization.

561

:

I love self-realization all about it and.

562

:

People want it, but they're a

little frightened because they

563

:

think they have to disintegrate.

564

:

Like God is chasing them around with

a broom, like a mouse beating them up.

565

:

Right?

566

:

That you have to release yourself.

567

:

You have to stop being you.

568

:

The truth is you become the divine within.

569

:

You recognize your divinity within self.

570

:

The tech.

571

:

If people are looking for, if your

audience is looking for practitioners

572

:

and let's say I don't appeal to them,

that's fine, but I will, I wanna give

573

:

this tip, which is really important.

574

:

I think if you're gonna work

with anyone, coach, hypnotist,

575

:

therapist, whatever, healer.

576

:

The signs of awakening

577

:

is a sense of still the person has a sense

of stillness, meaning there's space in

578

:

between their thoughts, there's stillness.

579

:

You get more still when

you're around them.

580

:

You get less defended stillness.

581

:

There's a sense of calm and

there's a sense of embodied

582

:

love, calm, stillness, love.

583

:

Those are the signs of awakening.

584

:

If someone doesn't have

that, they're not there.

585

:

Now, there are many stages of

awakening, of enlightenment.

586

:

They're not there.

587

:

There are many people who are

into spiritual materialism.

588

:

Rah, rah, you can have what you want.

589

:

Go and get it.

590

:

Whatever it is, which is

fine if that's what you want.

591

:

That's important work.

592

:

Self-actualization is important work,

but it's, it's, it's not the work,

593

:

Russell Newton: Okay.

594

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: right?

595

:

It's not

596

:

Russell Newton: Right.

597

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Again, wellbeing

requires more than self-development.

598

:

It requires something

deeper, someone to go within.

599

:

That what or recall goes

600

:

Russell Newton: It's just these

are, these are eye-opening.

601

:

Yeah.

602

:

I, I'm almost, uh, there's, there's

so much to unpack from that that I

603

:

almost don't know what, where to go.

604

:

Um,

605

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: That's okay.

606

:

We can hang out in the unknown.

607

:

It's a great place to be.

608

:

Honestly.

609

:

Russell Newton: I think I now I, I,

I hear you and I think maybe I'm un

610

:

a little uncomfortable with that.

611

:

My background is very

analytical, very, concrete.

612

:

Right.

613

:

Uh, I, I a math and science

teacher, a, a computer engineer.

614

:

Um, I.

615

:

I have, uh, some background in, in

counseling, um, a little bit, but

616

:

it's just such a different approach

617

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

No, actually it isn't.

618

:

So can I just tell you what I just saw?

619

:

So may I,

620

:

Russell Newton: please.

621

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: so when

you're talking, don't get scared.

622

:

It's okay.

623

:

So don't.

624

:

Russell Newton: yes.

625

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: So when you're

talking about your engineering and your

626

:

math, right, there's a place that you

go and you, it's up towards your right.

627

:

Maybe you left, 'cause I'm

seeing you reversed up here.

628

:

Where you go where you

actually consider options.

629

:

Do you know what I'm talking about?

630

:

When you're thinking about a

problem and how to resolve it,

631

:

you go to this still place,

632

:

this place of possibility there.

633

:

Right there.

634

:

It's right there.

635

:

Boom.

636

:

That's it.

637

:

That's it.

638

:

Now I've just got that on steroids.

639

:

Right?

640

:

But you've

641

:

Russell Newton: Wow.

642

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: got it.

643

:

And the way to increase it is to put

more attention on it and to rec Well

644

:

Colby, I don't know when I'm doing it.

645

:

That's okay.

646

:

That's okay.

647

:

That's okay.

648

:

Just be become curious.

649

:

Oh, there it is again.

650

:

You just accessed it.

651

:

'cause I could feel it when you access it.

652

:

This is the benefit.

653

:

Russell Newton: like, yeah,

it's, it's, you know, the impact.

654

:

It's a little scary from my point of view.

655

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Oh yeah.

656

:

Russell Newton: almost like,

and, and you're doing this

657

:

over a, great distance somehow.

658

:

It, it is fascinating.

659

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

It's really creepy, right?

660

:

It's crazy.

661

:

Like I'll talk to a friend,

662

:

Russell Newton: creepy.

663

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: really creepy.

664

:

I'll talk to a friend and

like, I'm like, I lost you.

665

:

No, I'm right here.

666

:

No, no.

667

:

You're paying attention to something else.

668

:

Oh, how do you do that?

669

:

I'm like, I don't know.

670

:

I just, I, this is this empathy,

the sensitive thing, which is it.

671

:

Look, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

672

:

It's a pain in the ass,

to be honest with you.

673

:

It's a pain in the ass and it's

what I got and I work with it.

674

:

So here's my point.

675

:

There is a place you go when you are

open to possibility and you, you are

676

:

there, you're in your body, and you're

also aware of the bridge you showed

677

:

me, like a bridge, like this horizon.

678

:

You're there now, right?

679

:

That's it.

680

:

You just start delineating, oh, I'm here.

681

:

Oh, and then you start being

able to get there at will.

682

:

Oh, I want to get there.

683

:

I'm, oh, I don't know what

you, what do I have for dinner?

684

:

I don't know.

685

:

And off you go, right?

686

:

And then you're like, that's it.

687

:

Now I just have that kind of in waking

688

:

state.

689

:

Um, now keep in mind, I wanna warn,

I wanna tell on myself a little bit.

690

:

Super easy to develop an ego about this.

691

:

And there was a time where I'm

like, look how special I am.

692

:

Look what I can do.

693

:

Right?

694

:

And that's a, you know, one of my teachers

would say, Kolby the paranormal, which

695

:

is what we just did, is really great.

696

:

But don't get stuck there.

697

:

I.

698

:

Keep going to the unified field.

699

:

Keep going.

700

:

These gifts occur and occur

as you move forward, but

701

:

don't think it's the end game.

702

:

Don't think it's even you.

703

:

Keep going to the unified field.

704

:

Keep going.

705

:

Don't get trapped in being psychic

or being intuitive or like talking

706

:

to dead people or keep going.

707

:

That's not the point.

708

:

It is part of the gift and it's

also, and it's also a distraction.

709

:

So yes, you're differently wired than me.

710

:

We need every, I'm not an engineer.

711

:

I can't do that stuff, right?

712

:

We need, we need you on the planet and

you can access the unified field your

713

:

purpose in a way that's specific to you.

714

:

You don't have to do, don't do it my way.

715

:

And one, you can't because, not because

it's so great, because you're not me.

716

:

Russell Newton: Right.

717

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: This is

the benefit of dealing with an

718

:

intuitive, like I can sense your path.

719

:

Other people can only give you

what they did, which is handy,

720

:

but you can't get where you want

to go from there, in my opinion.

721

:

Russell Newton: Um, one of the things that

722

:

really struck me early in our

conversation was you talk about the

723

:

ability to stretch out or to withdraw.

724

:

Tell me about that in

a regular conversation.

725

:

Do you, can you, you said you can

control that or withdraw it or

726

:

extend it, and I guess it's two

different things that I'm asking.

727

:

Can you draw that back into yourself so

that you can move through interactions

728

:

without sensing the things around you?

729

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Everyone

wants to be seen, right?

730

:

We all want to be seen, but very few

people want to be seen through, right?

731

:

And what you're describing is, holy

crap, this guy can see through me and

732

:

my bullshit and my skeletons, and that

scares the hell outta me when I don't

733

:

necessarily want to deal with that.

734

:

And I certainly don't

want other people to know.

735

:

The only way, there are three things I do.

736

:

As a wayfinder, I help dig, dig to the

bottom of a wound and help you release it.

737

:

I help you with energetic

practices to modulate your field

738

:

to enter greater wellbeing, right?

739

:

It's like a hack.

740

:

Like, okay, you're not, you're

here but you want to be here.

741

:

How do we reconfigure your

field so you feel greater joy

742

:

beyond your present capacity?

743

:

And three, I help you adjust.

744

:

Be aware of your ego and

how it's sabotaging you.

745

:

Okay?

746

:

What you're describing, the discomfort

is this guy's aware of my ego.

747

:

I'm scared.

748

:

Reasonable, totally reasonable,

totally reasonable, totally reasonable

749

:

for me.

750

:

My gift, I can turn on or off.

751

:

I.

752

:

As I think all gifts should

be able to turn on or off.

753

:

If when a client comes to me and

says, look, I can't control my gift.

754

:

Dead People are constantly talking to

me and it's getting really inconvenient,

755

:

that means you're not in control.

756

:

That's a problem, and

you need to gain control.

757

:

Okay?

758

:

This shouldn't be happening to

you outside of your willingness or

759

:

else something else is going on.

760

:

That means you might be being influenced

by something or you are, you know, you

761

:

have some competing needs or thoughts

and you look, look how special I am.

762

:

I'm so spiritual, I can't

control my evolution.

763

:

God wants, you know,

some craziness, right?

764

:

God bless you.

765

:

I've got my own craziness, okay?

766

:

So I have control.

767

:

I can turn it on or turn it off.

768

:

Having said that, if

I'm at the barista, I.

769

:

And I'll give you an example.

770

:

So I went to the market, I don't

know, a couple years ago, and this,

771

:

uh, the cashier says, how are you?

772

:

I'm like, I'm not having a great day,

actually, it's really not a good day.

773

:

So like, okay, that'll be 1359 now.

774

:

I was like, holy crap.

775

:

How does she do that?

776

:

How does she do that?

777

:

Because if someone tells me in those

days they were having a bad day, I

778

:

would feel compelled to help them com.

779

:

Like I had no choice in the matter.

780

:

Like, I have to, but she doesn't

have the empathy that I have.

781

:

My empathy keeps me ethical

because I sense the other and what

782

:

it will do to the other, and I

sense the other as myself, right?

783

:

So people are, without empathy, you

are more, you are more not prone.

784

:

You can be more unethical

than somebody who has empathy.

785

:

Right.

786

:

So to answer your question, I'm

able to turn it on and turn it off.

787

:

I make choices like to

engage or not engage.

788

:

'cause not every day do I wanna sit

down with somebody because I send

789

:

something, you know, maybe I don't

and I have to choose, you know, let's,

790

:

there's a practice I have that one

of my other teachers would taught

791

:

me, Colby, if there's a lost dog in

the neighborhood, that doesn't mean

792

:

it's for you to go and get that dog.

793

:

What do you mean it's a lost dog?

794

:

It's running around.

795

:

It could be starving, it could be abused.

796

:

Of course I'm gonna go and save the dog.

797

:

No, Colby, you have to

ask, is that yours to do?

798

:

Because the boy down the street,

that might be his future pet, and you

799

:

stepping in will cause a rift in that

you have to ask, is this mine to do?

800

:

If, for instance, like for me, I have

this ability, one to find lost dogs.

801

:

Like if you want a dog, you

just tell me what you want.

802

:

It'll come within a week.

803

:

This boom shows up.

804

:

Or if you're an elderly

person lost, you find me.

805

:

Always.

806

:

I find an old person pretty much

every other day, every third

807

:

day, wandering around lost.

808

:

Now I live near a, like three

blocks From a senior center.

809

:

Yeah.

810

:

Okay.

811

:

Yeah, yeah.

812

:

But it's incr.

813

:

I ask other people,

does this happen to you?

814

:

Does this happen to you?

815

:

No.

816

:

Why?

817

:

I've never seen five old people lost.

818

:

I find them all the time.

819

:

So there's, and I ask each

time, is this mine to do?

820

:

And the times I'm like, okay, there's an

older man with a cane wandering around.

821

:

I get clearly not yours.

822

:

I'm like, well, can I stay here and watch?

823

:

Not yours.

824

:

Walk away.

825

:

Walk away, but, but walk away.

826

:

The gift has its pluses and the more

tuned in you are to yourself, the more

827

:

you know what your is yours to do.

828

:

The only thing when you get that like pull

away from me is you're trying to protect

829

:

what you don't even wanna protect anymore.

830

:

You don't want that self that you're

holding onto that you're embarrassed by.

831

:

You're like, look, in my opinion,

832

:

life is a perpetual

coming out of the closet,

833

:

right?

834

:

You just fly your freak flag higher

and higher and higher, because no

835

:

one part of me gives a shit anyway.

836

:

Russell Newton: That's

prob, that's probably true.

837

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

No one gives a shit.

838

:

It's you who gives a shit.

839

:

Because you think you've taken in their

voices or what you imagine their voices

840

:

have said, real or run real, whatever.

841

:

Who are you protecting

anyway from your freakiness?

842

:

Not Freakiness, criminal.

843

:

Freakiness.

844

:

Like you being you.

845

:

No one cares, cares.

846

:

My, uh, I have a transgender

friend and he was really afraid.

847

:

She, I apologize.

848

:

She is, was really afraid

to wear a dress, right?

849

:

And I said to her, no one cares.

850

:

In fact, everyone's so involved with

themselves, they may not even notice.

851

:

They might not even notice.

852

:

And she went out in her dress,

in her thing, felt so free.

853

:

No one cared.

854

:

Cared.

855

:

Hardly.

856

:

No one cared.

857

:

And.

858

:

I don't care.

859

:

Do what you're gonna do.

860

:

Now I live in Seattle.

861

:

Right, right.

862

:

It's very rather liberal here.

863

:

So you know, I may be speaking

from that paradigm, but your

864

:

listeners, please go and be you.

865

:

The journey of our lives

is not to be happy.

866

:

I'm sorry.

867

:

It's not what it's about.

868

:

It's not about finding happiness.

869

:

That's not what it's about.

870

:

Sorry.

871

:

Sorry.

872

:

It's not what it's about.

873

:

The journey of our lifetime

is to become ourselves.

874

:

That's the journey is to allow

yourself to become who you are.

875

:

Giving yourself permission every

moment, every step of the way

876

:

to be you, whoever that may be.

877

:

Now that's separating who you think

you are, who you think you need

878

:

to be, who you think will get your

approval from who you actually are.

879

:

That's the journey and my friend,

that is not always a happy process.

880

:

It's deeply satisfying, deeply

satisfying, but it's not happy.

881

:

'cause you gotta allow

yourself to become you

882

:

and let go of, oh, I need their approval,

I need, I need to make a living.

883

:

You know, whatever it is, I

gotta do this, I gotta do that.

884

:

Other people, Papa, I have this reason to.

885

:

Okay, see you next time.

886

:

Enjoy yourself.

887

:

Russell Newton: Does that disillusion some

of your clients coming in, do the, does

888

:

that turn them away or they realize enough

that, uh, what you're saying is true?

889

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: You

know, you want to be able to

890

:

speak the truth with compassion.

891

:

Just speaking the truth can

make you sound like an asshole.

892

:

I.

893

:

Russell Newton: Very

894

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Right.

895

:

So you

896

:

Russell Newton: Very

897

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: speak the truth

with compassion and with a sense that

898

:

they are getting it and able to digest it.

899

:

Having said that, I had a client last

week, new client, she gets on the

900

:

phone, she's just starts talking and

I'm like, what do you wanna work on?

901

:

She didn't answer the question.

902

:

I kept talking about her.

903

:

I don't know her cells

and they're in conflict.

904

:

I don't know.

905

:

And she keeps talking and then she

starts like, oh, this one's this.

906

:

And I'm feeling this now.

907

:

And I'm like feeling in.

908

:

I'm like, there's nothing happening.

909

:

She's all in her mind.

910

:

There's nothing happening.

911

:

She starts to cry.

912

:

There's nothing happening.

913

:

'cause she's on some sort of

mental trip, which happens, right?

914

:

That happens.

915

:

'cause she, her mind wants to convince

her that something's happening.

916

:

But really nothing is happening.

917

:

Another work is getting done.

918

:

And so I stop and I'm like, would you

like to know my opinion about you?

919

:

She keeps talking.

920

:

Russell Newton: Wow.

921

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: She keeps talking.

922

:

You're paying for the session.

923

:

Would you like to get my feedback?

924

:

I'm like, well, stop, stop, stop.

925

:

Do I have your attention?

926

:

Can I tell you what I sense?

927

:

Yes.

928

:

Okay, good.

929

:

You're not letting me contribute to you

and you don't let anyone contribute to

930

:

you because you're too afraid to allow

somebody to love you because your parents

931

:

love came with a whole bunch of stuff

and you grew up too fast, and now you

932

:

want love, but you can't let it in.

933

:

Now she starts crying Now real heaving.

934

:

I could sense it in her field.

935

:

Stuff is coming, right?

936

:

Stuff is coming.

937

:

Oh, I've known this, but I, but

you haven't been able to get to it.

938

:

Right?

939

:

Because we are damaged in

our relationship with people.

940

:

That's how we're damaged.

941

:

That requires another person

to help you resolve it.

942

:

You can't resolve it alone.

943

:

Not those kind of wounds.

944

:

You can go to Tibet live in a mountain.

945

:

You're not gonna touch this.

946

:

Okay?

947

:

You can touch other stuff, but you

can't touch interpersonal damage.

948

:

You can't.

949

:

Now, after that whole

series, she feels better.

950

:

She feels more open.

951

:

Okay.

952

:

She gets off, she makes another

appointment, and then she comes to con.

953

:

Then I get an email saying she doesn't

wanna work with me because she's

954

:

too terrified about what came out.

955

:

It's too difficult.

956

:

Okay.

957

:

Okay.

958

:

She's not ready to go

there again, you're scared.

959

:

And she may need some time to coalesce

because what happened was she had her

960

:

resolution, she felt good, and then

her ego stepped in after the fact

961

:

and said, enough of this,

I wanna stay where I am.

962

:

It's too scary out there.

963

:

And that's true for all of us.

964

:

We want what we want, but we would have

it if we didn't have competing desires.

965

:

We would.

966

:

We, we have a life we'll

allow ourselves to have.

967

:

That's just true.

968

:

We could say all day.

969

:

I had another client last week, a

young lady who wants to be married

970

:

in her thirties, can't meet a guy.

971

:

Very attractive, very

nice woman, yoga person.

972

:

She's talking about how she wants

to be in love and find a man.

973

:

And I'm like, well, the reason you can't

find that is 'cause you don't want love.

974

:

Do you want to be validated?

975

:

What?

976

:

You want to be validated?

977

:

You don't want love.

978

:

You don't wanna give love receiv love.

979

:

You want to be validated.

980

:

What are you talking about?

981

:

You want everyone to know you're okay

because you got this on your arm.

982

:

Took her a moment.

983

:

She's like, you're right.

984

:

Okay, let's work on getting you validated.

985

:

Let's work on you, validating you.

986

:

Then maybe, maybe love

will show up, maybe not.

987

:

It's a very outside in approach, right?

988

:

It's very much performative, right?

989

:

Again, it's masquerading as

somebody else and afraid that

990

:

people will see through it.

991

:

Right.

992

:

As opposed to, okay, you don't

value you, you're not valid to you.

993

:

And by the way, we all

are on that journey.

994

:

The only reason I'm able to see

anyone is 'cause I see me that

995

:

Russell Newton: Hmm.

996

:

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: I have a gift.

997

:

Sure.

998

:

But I've applied this gift to myself.

999

:

The only reason I could,

we're all not that different.

:

00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,619

We're all ice cream.

:

00:51:24,619 --> 00:51:26,299

We're just different flavors of ice cream.

:

00:51:26,809 --> 00:51:27,169

Right?

:

00:51:27,409 --> 00:51:29,779

So, no, I'm not beyond this.

:

00:51:29,779 --> 00:51:30,079

Right.

:

00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:31,309

I'm in it with you.

:

00:51:31,879 --> 00:51:32,359

Okay.

:

00:51:32,359 --> 00:51:35,269

So you want, you need

to validate yourself.

:

00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:36,049

Okay, great.

:

00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:36,769

Let's look at that.

:

00:51:37,189 --> 00:51:37,789

Let's go.

:

00:51:38,467 --> 00:51:39,077

Russell Newton: Fantastic.

:

00:51:39,379 --> 00:51:39,679

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Yeah.

:

00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:41,089

Maybe you don't want a val.

:

00:51:41,089 --> 00:51:45,049

You want someone to come in and pick

you up and tell you you're okay.

:

00:51:45,319 --> 00:51:45,949

Me too.

:

00:51:46,009 --> 00:51:46,609

I do too.

:

00:51:46,669 --> 00:51:47,059

I do too.

:

00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:48,379

Is that gonna happen?

:

00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:49,369

Mm, probably not.

:

00:51:49,699 --> 00:51:50,059

Okay.

:

00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:55,249

So let's honor those parts

of you that don't feel valid.

:

00:51:55,879 --> 00:51:56,839

And maybe the guy will come.

:

00:51:56,869 --> 00:51:58,069

Maybe the guy will not come.

:

00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:00,679

Right.

:

00:52:01,609 --> 00:52:03,739

The journey is to become ourselves.

:

00:52:04,279 --> 00:52:06,079

And sometimes we don't like ourselves.

:

00:52:07,637 --> 00:52:08,747

Russell Newton: Wow, that's, yeah.

:

00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:09,739

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Right?

:

00:52:10,339 --> 00:52:11,179

And that's okay.

:

00:52:11,689 --> 00:52:12,049

Okay.

:

00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:14,389

Let's allow ourselves to be us.

:

00:52:15,289 --> 00:52:16,459

Oh, well, I'm a bit of a bully.

:

00:52:16,489 --> 00:52:18,319

Okay, let's allow yourself to be a bully.

:

00:52:18,979 --> 00:52:19,969

Let's not judge it.

:

00:52:20,689 --> 00:52:21,799

Allow yourself to be a bully.

:

00:52:21,979 --> 00:52:25,369

'cause you're also a bully to you,

not only to your wife, your kids.

:

00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:26,389

You're also a bully to you.

:

00:52:26,444 --> 00:52:30,379

Let's, let's look at, let's

allow yourself to be a bully.

:

00:52:31,429 --> 00:52:32,479

Oh, I don't wanna be a bully.

:

00:52:33,139 --> 00:52:35,569

Okay, well, okay.

:

00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:36,079

Why not?

:

00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:36,859

Well, 'cause it's wrong.

:

00:52:36,859 --> 00:52:37,429

No, no, no, no.

:

00:52:37,489 --> 00:52:40,579

I want you to allow yourself

to enjoy being a bully.

:

00:52:40,579 --> 00:52:41,179

Go for it.

:

00:52:41,419 --> 00:52:41,899

Enjoy.

:

00:52:41,899 --> 00:52:43,789

Mm, I love it.

:

00:52:43,789 --> 00:52:44,359

I love it.

:

00:52:44,419 --> 00:52:45,409

I love the power.

:

00:52:45,529 --> 00:52:47,599

I love pushing somebody into the ground.

:

00:52:47,689 --> 00:52:48,199

I love it.

:

00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:51,739

I'm, I'm, um, I'm Colby, this

is not so satisfying anymore.

:

00:52:51,799 --> 00:52:53,239

Oh, it's not?

:

00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,829

I'm, oh, okay.

:

00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:56,059

What's satisfying?

:

00:52:56,659 --> 00:52:57,165

I don't know.

:

00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:58,159

I don't know what, okay.

:

00:52:58,159 --> 00:52:58,909

Let's hang out there.

:

00:53:00,184 --> 00:53:01,684

It goes very quickly.

:

00:53:01,714 --> 00:53:06,724

Like it's not, therapy is great and I've

had a lot, but it's quick because you're

:

00:53:06,724 --> 00:53:13,504

just allowing someone to unfold while I

stay here, right in my alignment while

:

00:53:13,504 --> 00:53:15,964

I'm holding or helping hold a container.

:

00:53:17,134 --> 00:53:22,724

A container is an energetic structure

supported by angelic forces guides

:

00:53:23,254 --> 00:53:26,074

that makes things go fast, right?

:

00:53:26,074 --> 00:53:30,784

It helps hold, just like you've been in

a container, if you've ever been to a

:

00:53:30,784 --> 00:53:35,974

service of some sort, a funeral, a bar

mitzvah, a wedding, you know, you could

:

00:53:35,974 --> 00:53:39,124

feel when you enter into a sacred place.

:

00:53:39,214 --> 00:53:43,354

That's a container, so I'm hoping

to establish it around somebody.

:

00:53:45,454 --> 00:53:48,282

It goes very, it goes pretty fast, and

:

00:53:48,582 --> 00:53:48,802

Russell Newton: Wow.

:

00:53:49,102 --> 00:53:50,254

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

there's also no place to go.

:

00:53:51,364 --> 00:53:52,684

We are here to become ourselves.

:

00:53:52,714 --> 00:53:54,304

That's a never ending process.

:

00:53:55,324 --> 00:53:58,414

I hear people kolby, how

long will it take me to?

:

00:53:59,554 --> 00:54:00,394

Heal this.

:

00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:05,434

I'm, I don't know how, how willing

are you to be with yourself?

:

00:54:07,384 --> 00:54:07,894

I'm willing.

:

00:54:07,924 --> 00:54:08,224

Okay.

:

00:54:08,224 --> 00:54:08,764

Let's go.

:

00:54:09,034 --> 00:54:10,804

Oh, this is, let's go.

:

00:54:11,014 --> 00:54:11,404

Great.

:

00:54:13,114 --> 00:54:17,164

I'm very blessed 'cause I get

to talk to people about what

:

00:54:17,164 --> 00:54:20,134

matters most to them themselves.

:

00:54:21,334 --> 00:54:24,334

I'm very blessed 'cause I get

to have really interesting

:

00:54:24,334 --> 00:54:25,474

conversations with people.

:

00:54:27,964 --> 00:54:28,324

Right.

:

00:54:28,714 --> 00:54:35,434

And sometimes I have to help somebody

because there is a place where people

:

00:54:35,434 --> 00:54:38,494

indulge in their victimization.

:

00:54:39,814 --> 00:54:47,674

Or me, I'm 65, my parents really screwed

me up and they, they indulge in it.

:

00:54:48,454 --> 00:54:52,684

There's a place for tapping, touching

in to the wound, and there's a

:

00:54:52,684 --> 00:54:54,634

place for saying, okay, enough,

:

00:54:56,644 --> 00:54:57,184

enough.

:

00:54:58,129 --> 00:54:59,149

I let this go.

:

00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:00,949

Let's do a process to let it go.

:

00:55:02,149 --> 00:55:04,069

I know so many people.

:

00:55:05,929 --> 00:55:12,649

I had a years ago I had a

call from my sister Love.

:

00:55:12,649 --> 00:55:16,969

My sister, love her, and

she was with my mother.

:

00:55:17,149 --> 00:55:17,869

Here's the accent.

:

00:55:17,869 --> 00:55:24,439

My mother, and she's like, Colby, my

sister said, when did you get rags?

:

00:55:24,439 --> 00:55:25,489

My dog from?

:

00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:28,099

I'm like, I got him in eighth grade.

:

00:55:28,099 --> 00:55:28,639

Tell mom.

:

00:55:28,699 --> 00:55:30,259

Tell mommy you got him in eighth grade.

:

00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:32,389

Pam, what's going on?

:

00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:38,569

Mommy thinks you got him in ninth grade.

:

00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:39,559

You got him in eighth grade.

:

00:55:40,999 --> 00:55:43,009

Why are you arguing

with the old woman, Pam?

:

00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:44,989

Let her have what she wants.

:

00:55:46,489 --> 00:55:47,599

Let her have what she wants.

:

00:55:47,869 --> 00:55:48,589

Why are you arguing?

:

00:55:48,589 --> 00:55:49,939

Why your sister is arguing with my mother?

:

00:55:49,969 --> 00:55:51,259

'cause she hasn't forgiven my mother.

:

00:55:51,769 --> 00:55:52,189

That's why.

:

00:55:53,929 --> 00:55:54,604

I don't care.

:

00:55:54,604 --> 00:55:56,254

Like, let her believe what she wants.

:

00:55:56,614 --> 00:55:57,634

Who cares?

:

00:56:00,274 --> 00:56:01,204

That's indulging.

:

00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:03,329

Just let it go.

:

00:56:04,659 --> 00:56:05,096

Let it go.

:

00:56:06,904 --> 00:56:07,474

Let it go.

:

00:56:07,744 --> 00:56:08,764

Forgive her, forgive you.

:

00:56:09,364 --> 00:56:13,204

And that process, it's not, when

people don't, I say, let go.

:

00:56:13,474 --> 00:56:16,144

But letting go is not

something that you decide.

:

00:56:16,144 --> 00:56:18,544

You decide to let go, and then

something moves through you.

:

00:56:19,624 --> 00:56:24,604

It's something happens,

you, it's like, Hey, relax.

:

00:56:24,754 --> 00:56:26,194

I can't, that's not helpful.

:

00:56:26,914 --> 00:56:27,664

That's not how, how?

:

00:56:27,664 --> 00:56:28,414

How do I relax?

:

00:56:28,444 --> 00:56:28,714

I don't.

:

00:56:29,164 --> 00:56:31,264

Okay, can, let's calm your breathing.

:

00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:32,674

Breathe in, breathe out.

:

00:56:32,674 --> 00:56:33,484

Bring your attention here.

:

00:56:33,724 --> 00:56:34,744

There's a process.

:

00:56:35,074 --> 00:56:36,364

There's a process to letting go.

:

00:56:39,167 --> 00:56:39,587

Russell Newton: Wow.

:

00:56:40,504 --> 00:56:44,674

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Everyone

wants change in their life, bigger

:

00:56:44,674 --> 00:56:47,254

house, better body, whatever.

:

00:56:47,764 --> 00:56:49,984

But few people are willing to change.

:

00:56:52,174 --> 00:56:53,194

That's just true.

:

00:56:55,744 --> 00:57:01,954

Most of my work, to be honest with

you, is I have this theory of tides.

:

00:57:02,284 --> 00:57:09,034

It's not my own, but I labeled that, that

we're all in the notion of consciousness.

:

00:57:09,754 --> 00:57:12,214

And at any one point

we're caught in a tide.

:

00:57:13,024 --> 00:57:16,804

And if you've ever been to the ocean, I'm

from Long Island, and you get caught in

:

00:57:16,804 --> 00:57:21,064

a tide, you don't try to swim out because

you're just gonna tire yourself out.

:

00:57:21,334 --> 00:57:25,054

You tread water, keep your eye on the

horizon so you know how far out you're

:

00:57:25,054 --> 00:57:29,524

going, and you wait for the tide to

spit you out, and then you swim out.

:

00:57:30,364 --> 00:57:33,964

Most of us who are going through a

difficult time are caught in a tide.

:

00:57:35,464 --> 00:57:38,824

You try to swim against the

tide, you are going to suffer.

:

00:57:39,844 --> 00:57:41,104

It's going to drag on.

:

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You cannot fight it.

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However you tread water with

somebody, you keep your eye

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on what you want, the horizon.

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00:57:51,334 --> 00:57:54,934

You see how far you're getting

from the horizon, how far you are

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getting from the source of you.

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00:57:58,114 --> 00:58:00,814

You'll survive the tide

until it spits you out.

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00:58:01,864 --> 00:58:05,314

Most of us just need a

partner to get through,

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00:58:07,744 --> 00:58:11,374

and while you're being pressured

by the tide, your stuff is coming

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00:58:11,374 --> 00:58:13,474

up to be resolved, to be washed.

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00:58:14,824 --> 00:58:20,644

So when you emerge out of the tide,

you're no longer the same self, and

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00:58:20,644 --> 00:58:27,004

you get out, you shake yourself off and

you're fresh and ready for something new.

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Russell Newton: Wow.

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00:58:28,684 --> 00:58:31,652

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Maybe there's some

fried chicken that sounds really good.

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00:58:31,952 --> 00:58:32,342

Russell Newton: That sounds

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00:58:32,584 --> 00:58:33,124

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: The peach.

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00:58:34,172 --> 00:58:34,922

Russell Newton: That sounds good.

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00:58:35,642 --> 00:58:36,512

that's fantastic.

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00:58:36,512 --> 00:58:39,842

I, that's a, that's a great conclusion.

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00:58:39,932 --> 00:58:42,932

We're about, we've been going

quite a while, and I don't, I

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00:58:42,962 --> 00:58:44,252

really appreciate your time.

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00:58:44,552 --> 00:58:51,212

Um, I, I've got so much in my head from

this that I am, I need to come to an end

:

00:58:51,212 --> 00:58:53,432

because I am, am having trouble processing

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00:58:53,524 --> 00:58:53,814

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Okay.

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00:58:53,972 --> 00:58:54,842

Russell Newton: a lot of this stuff

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00:58:54,844 --> 00:58:55,134

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Yeah.

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00:58:55,622 --> 00:58:58,682

Russell Newton: and the thoughts

are getting a bit jumbled.

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00:58:58,922 --> 00:59:04,772

Um, so let's wrap it up with

some business, uh, side of things

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00:59:04,772 --> 00:59:05,882

for our listeners and then.

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00:59:06,302 --> 00:59:09,182

Uh, maybe we can do it again

at some point in the future.

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00:59:09,542 --> 00:59:15,722

If, uh, if the listener wants to

get in touch with you, uh, or they

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00:59:15,722 --> 00:59:18,002

want to contact you, what would

you recommend for them to do?

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00:59:18,002 --> 00:59:18,512

What's the best

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00:59:18,529 --> 00:59:22,129

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: So, uh,

my website is colby wilk.com,

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C-O-L-B-Y-W-I-L k.com.

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00:59:25,819 --> 00:59:28,219

And I have a newsletter there.

:

00:59:28,759 --> 00:59:33,769

And I've got a ton of blog articles

and tips and practices as well as

:

00:59:33,769 --> 00:59:37,969

I'm on most of the social media,

mostly on Facebook and on YouTube.

:

00:59:38,839 --> 00:59:45,169

And, uh, I sent you a link for a free

gift, uh, which is, uh, helping people to

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00:59:45,169 --> 00:59:48,709

find the first secret to finding your way.

:

00:59:50,149 --> 00:59:53,839

It's really great and it's free

right, and it helps people to

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00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:57,229

understand what may be in their way

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00:59:58,017 --> 00:59:58,307

Russell Newton: okay.

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00:59:58,607 --> 01:00:01,549

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: causing them

to feel lost, forgotten, stuck.

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01:00:02,107 --> 01:00:06,787

Russell Newton: is there something

you wished I had asked I didn't?

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01:00:06,877 --> 01:00:10,447

Is there some information you want

to provide, uh, as a, as a closing

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01:00:10,447 --> 01:00:13,447

note that I should have broached the

subject on and I, I missed completely.

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01:00:18,759 --> 01:00:21,459

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: the only

thing I'd like to say, there's a

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01:00:21,459 --> 01:00:23,139

lot of stuff going on in the world.

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01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:28,209

There's a lot of conflict, a

lot of argument, a lot of doubt.

:

01:00:29,769 --> 01:00:32,559

Doubt is the food of the ego.

:

01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:38,349

Once your ego gets involved, you

get scared, and then you do dec.

:

01:00:38,529 --> 01:00:40,419

You make your decisions based on fear.

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01:00:42,339 --> 01:00:49,239

The reason, the opportunity here

with all this conflict with grocery

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01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:53,979

store shells being empty with

people unsure about their living

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01:00:56,019 --> 01:00:57,444

is to not give into doubt.

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01:00:59,634 --> 01:01:01,434

To know that all will be okay.

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01:01:01,524 --> 01:01:02,874

We don't know what it's gonna look like.

:

01:01:03,894 --> 01:01:05,394

You may be moved to a different job.

:

01:01:06,114 --> 01:01:10,584

You may be compelled to move

to a smaller, more affordable

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01:01:10,584 --> 01:01:13,224

home, but all will be okay.

:

01:01:14,454 --> 01:01:17,394

'cause what we value is

not really what we value.

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01:01:19,884 --> 01:01:20,934

All will be fine.

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01:01:21,054 --> 01:01:22,464

Do not give into fear.

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01:01:23,184 --> 01:01:25,224

Turn off the news more and more.

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01:01:25,524 --> 01:01:26,874

Don't stick your head in the sand.

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01:01:27,587 --> 01:01:27,937

Russell Newton: Right.

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01:01:28,494 --> 01:01:31,614

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder: Don't be

afraid and don't give into paranoia.

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01:01:33,384 --> 01:01:38,244

There are forces supporting our planet

to go through this change and there are

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01:01:38,244 --> 01:01:43,164

forces that are against that process.

:

01:01:43,974 --> 01:01:48,234

Do not feed them and you feed them

by feeding your ego with doubt.

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01:01:50,214 --> 01:01:50,814

Stay short.

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01:01:53,124 --> 01:01:53,154

Okay.

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01:01:53,727 --> 01:01:54,337

Russell Newton: Fantastic.

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01:01:55,837 --> 01:01:56,057

Col.

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01:01:56,057 --> 01:01:56,857

Thank you very much.

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01:01:56,979 --> 01:01:57,609

Colby Wilk, Wayfinder:

Oh, it's my pleasure.

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01:01:57,609 --> 01:01:58,234

I had a wonderful time.

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Stop Overthinking. Become Present. Find Peace.
The Path to a Calm, Decluttered, and Zen Mind
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